Trisha`s Formals- Update...
I just talked to Patty on the phone...she finally spilled everything to me...I just wonder what took her so long... She told me that when customers pay via credit cards, the money goes to some sort of company..(maybe someone can explain this better than I can??)...and because she has had some complaints, the company is keepng the money to make sure that she will deliver the merchandice that she has promised her clients. Unfortunately, she told me that she needs some of that money to get the dresses ordered in the first place...because the money is all tied up, she can not even order some of the dresses. She told me that she has been telling everyone to just file with their credit card companies and have them refund you your money. So, that would be my advice to anyone having problems. I also found out some other interesting things... She has been telling everyone that her shop was in Maiden, NC.. But it was not...she gave me the tracking # for my dresses & it says they got shipped to her shop & the address was Hickory, NC. Also, I was looking back on some of the e-bay items she sold...and at the end of November she sold her entire store stock. I read the auction listing and it says that "We are selling our entire store stock, because the owner is very ill"... She has told me that her husband is sick, but he does not own her shop...she does... I kinda asked her about it & she finally admitted that she was the one who was sick, but she would not tell me what she was sick with....I told her she needs to get on here & explain all of this to everyone & she told me she is never going to get on here again...I don`t know why...but I feel she should at least appologize to her customers... Anyways, I just thought I`d let you all know what little I knew..I`ll keep you posted & send pics of my dresses when they arrive next week.
Posted by Kimmy; updated 01/01/05
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Patty,
I understand that you do not come on here, because you no longer have a need to do so. That is totally understandable. BUT...I think all of the brides would have appreciated it if you would have posted 1 last message telling everone that you had closed your shop & that all the gals who had recently placed orders would still get their orders. I didn`t even know you were closing your shop untill I asked you. You had said you were thinking about it, but you never said you were 100% certain you were going to do it. Then there were all these gals posting messages wondering why they coldn`t look at your site & such & I told them it was because you closed...and I kinda felt funny doing that, because that is not my job, it is your job as an owner. I was just trying to be a good friend to you. I am sorry, maybe I should not have said anything at all & directed everyone to you if they had questions or problems. I was just trying to be helpful.
Also, I just want you to know that I am not mad that my dress does not have a corset back, I am slightly dissapounted though. When I ordered the dress I expected it to come back 100% the way I ordered it. That is all. Like I said...I am not mad, especially not at you, because I don`t hold you responsible. However, my fiance` was more than a little angry when I told him it was not as we ordered it. He was the one who started ranting & raving about a breech of contract & told me to mention it in my post. Which, when you honnestly think about it, that kinda is true... If you order something & what you get is not exactly what your contract says you were suppose to get...that is a breech of contract....I am not saying this to "stir the pot," because God knows it doesn`t need anymore stirring.. I am just being honnest & truthful. I can not say anything more about my dress untill I actually recieve it (which by the way it did not come today).
Also, I am not sure how many times you looked at the photos of my dress, but there is no lavender at all in my dress. The original has 6 colors. Fuchsia/pink, navy/baby blue, & dark green/sage. According to an article in a bridal magazine I read, the whole concept of the dress is light shades of color vs. Dark shades of color. I am sure the dress will look very nice with the lavender & I will still like it I am sure, but there will be that little voice in the back of my mind telling me that, that is not exactly what I really ordered. Like I said in an earlier post, we order dresses that we like, because we like the way it looks, so when it comes back not looking like what we wanted or ordered, we can help but be just a little dissapointed. Like I said, I know that you are not exactly responsible for what your company adds or takes away from dresses, and I am not angry at you in any way. I wish though, that I could have got a quick glimpse of the dress, then I am sure my fears would have been calmed a lot. I have had faith in you all along, but I hear stories that other girls tell & then I don`t know what to think. It`s one thing when you are talking to someone about their dress & how they are unhappy...but it is a totally different thing when it comes down to your dress.
I am still anxiouslly awaithing my first glimpse of the dress!
I understand that you do not come on here, because you no longer have a need to do so. That is totally understandable. BUT...I think all of the brides would have appreciated it if you would have posted 1 last message telling everone that you had closed your shop & that all the gals who had recently placed orders would still get their orders. I didn`t even know you were closing your shop untill I asked you. You had said you were thinking about it, but you never said you were 100% certain you were going to do it. Then there were all these gals posting messages wondering why they coldn`t look at your site & such & I told them it was because you closed...and I kinda felt funny doing that, because that is not my job, it is your job as an owner. I was just trying to be a good friend to you. I am sorry, maybe I should not have said anything at all & directed everyone to you if they had questions or problems. I was just trying to be helpful.
Also, I just want you to know that I am not mad that my dress does not have a corset back, I am slightly dissapounted though. When I ordered the dress I expected it to come back 100% the way I ordered it. That is all. Like I said...I am not mad, especially not at you, because I don`t hold you responsible. However, my fiance` was more than a little angry when I told him it was not as we ordered it. He was the one who started ranting & raving about a breech of contract & told me to mention it in my post. Which, when you honnestly think about it, that kinda is true... If you order something & what you get is not exactly what your contract says you were suppose to get...that is a breech of contract....I am not saying this to "stir the pot," because God knows it doesn`t need anymore stirring.. I am just being honnest & truthful. I can not say anything more about my dress untill I actually recieve it (which by the way it did not come today).
Also, I am not sure how many times you looked at the photos of my dress, but there is no lavender at all in my dress. The original has 6 colors. Fuchsia/pink, navy/baby blue, & dark green/sage. According to an article in a bridal magazine I read, the whole concept of the dress is light shades of color vs. Dark shades of color. I am sure the dress will look very nice with the lavender & I will still like it I am sure, but there will be that little voice in the back of my mind telling me that, that is not exactly what I really ordered. Like I said in an earlier post, we order dresses that we like, because we like the way it looks, so when it comes back not looking like what we wanted or ordered, we can help but be just a little dissapointed. Like I said, I know that you are not exactly responsible for what your company adds or takes away from dresses, and I am not angry at you in any way. I wish though, that I could have got a quick glimpse of the dress, then I am sure my fears would have been calmed a lot. I have had faith in you all along, but I hear stories that other girls tell & then I don`t know what to think. It`s one thing when you are talking to someone about their dress & how they are unhappy...but it is a totally different thing when it comes down to your dress.
I am still anxiouslly awaithing my first glimpse of the dress!
Posted by Kimmy; updated 01/01/05
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Kimmy,
I do understand that you have concerns on the corset. I did order it with a corset. I would be happy to send you the same order form that I sent the mfg. If I had an answer as to why they did not add it I would happily give it to you. I send pictures to them, I sent the same pictures you sent to me. I am afraid I do not have answers on the differences. You and I have talked about the exactness of a gown. They are never exact. They are inspiration gowns. But anyway. I don`t understand why it did not come yesterday, I sent it 2 day air. You have the tracking number so it would be best to check on it (them) and see where it is at. I hope you do love the dress, I think it is beautiful and very much like the pictures that you sent me. As for my not posting that I was going out of business, well, Maybe I should have. I did post that I was selling out, and even sold my inventory on ebay. I knew if I told I was going out of business people would freak out like they did and it would be this mess. I went out with the thought that the merchant company was going to be sending me the balance of the funds to get the girls dresses ordered. I planned to do rushes on all of them to get them to everyone on time. Well, that fell through and then everyone knew before I had a chance to tell. I am not blaming you for telling. That is fine. You did what you thought was right and I know you would not do anything to intentionally hurt anyone. Kimmy you are a good person and as I told you the other night I appreciate your continued faith in me even with all the problems surrounding me. It does mean a lot. People do not take time to think. They jump to conclusions about other people. I am guilty of the same thing, everyone does it. It is hard when you do not know someone personally. You don`t know what their life is like, what they think, what they feel. I have a lot going on in my life. A lot of pain. Someone on here made the comment that the illness with my husband is probably not true. They are welcome to believe that. I hope that no one has to go through what I have been through with him. You ladies out here getting married, you must love your man. I love mine too. I love him so much it hurts. 6 years ago right before we got married I watched him lie in a hospital bed with tubes coming out everywhere, his eyes were taped shut and the doctors told me they did not know if he would live. My husband was 34 and had a 4 way bypass on his heart. The one man in my life who did not beat or molest me was going to die. How do you live with that? Now, it is happening again. He is sick, his blood pressure and cholesterol is up and I am scared to death. I opened this business to hopefully make enough money that he could slack up on his work. A 40 year old man in his condition working 18 hours a day 7 days a week is not good. Then the business went to crap. Everyone is on my back yelling and cussing me. All I was trying to do was make peoples dreams come true and it ended up being a nightmare for them and me. It was not planned that way God knows. I have been compared to Melody, please do not do that. I felt sorry for her at first, thought that maybe something bad happend to her like it did me, but then she just keeps on and on. I have not intentions of that. I have told you what has happend and who I have confirmation on the gowns for and who I do not. As for contacting everyone, well that would have been great but two things happend there. One my teen daughter crashed my PC with all the information on it and then when yahoo closed the store they erased all the data. Kinda makes it hard to do anything there. Yes another fishy sounding story, it is true. Unfortunately there is a series of events that has happend and continues to happen to me with this that just refuses to let me do anything that would be right about it. You guys can decide what you want about me or anything else. I can`t concern myself with your personal thoughts of me. I can although simply tell you once again that I do apologize for the problems it has caused you.
Patty
I do understand that you have concerns on the corset. I did order it with a corset. I would be happy to send you the same order form that I sent the mfg. If I had an answer as to why they did not add it I would happily give it to you. I send pictures to them, I sent the same pictures you sent to me. I am afraid I do not have answers on the differences. You and I have talked about the exactness of a gown. They are never exact. They are inspiration gowns. But anyway. I don`t understand why it did not come yesterday, I sent it 2 day air. You have the tracking number so it would be best to check on it (them) and see where it is at. I hope you do love the dress, I think it is beautiful and very much like the pictures that you sent me. As for my not posting that I was going out of business, well, Maybe I should have. I did post that I was selling out, and even sold my inventory on ebay. I knew if I told I was going out of business people would freak out like they did and it would be this mess. I went out with the thought that the merchant company was going to be sending me the balance of the funds to get the girls dresses ordered. I planned to do rushes on all of them to get them to everyone on time. Well, that fell through and then everyone knew before I had a chance to tell. I am not blaming you for telling. That is fine. You did what you thought was right and I know you would not do anything to intentionally hurt anyone. Kimmy you are a good person and as I told you the other night I appreciate your continued faith in me even with all the problems surrounding me. It does mean a lot. People do not take time to think. They jump to conclusions about other people. I am guilty of the same thing, everyone does it. It is hard when you do not know someone personally. You don`t know what their life is like, what they think, what they feel. I have a lot going on in my life. A lot of pain. Someone on here made the comment that the illness with my husband is probably not true. They are welcome to believe that. I hope that no one has to go through what I have been through with him. You ladies out here getting married, you must love your man. I love mine too. I love him so much it hurts. 6 years ago right before we got married I watched him lie in a hospital bed with tubes coming out everywhere, his eyes were taped shut and the doctors told me they did not know if he would live. My husband was 34 and had a 4 way bypass on his heart. The one man in my life who did not beat or molest me was going to die. How do you live with that? Now, it is happening again. He is sick, his blood pressure and cholesterol is up and I am scared to death. I opened this business to hopefully make enough money that he could slack up on his work. A 40 year old man in his condition working 18 hours a day 7 days a week is not good. Then the business went to crap. Everyone is on my back yelling and cussing me. All I was trying to do was make peoples dreams come true and it ended up being a nightmare for them and me. It was not planned that way God knows. I have been compared to Melody, please do not do that. I felt sorry for her at first, thought that maybe something bad happend to her like it did me, but then she just keeps on and on. I have not intentions of that. I have told you what has happend and who I have confirmation on the gowns for and who I do not. As for contacting everyone, well that would have been great but two things happend there. One my teen daughter crashed my PC with all the information on it and then when yahoo closed the store they erased all the data. Kinda makes it hard to do anything there. Yes another fishy sounding story, it is true. Unfortunately there is a series of events that has happend and continues to happen to me with this that just refuses to let me do anything that would be right about it. You guys can decide what you want about me or anything else. I can`t concern myself with your personal thoughts of me. I can although simply tell you once again that I do apologize for the problems it has caused you.
Patty
Posted by Patty; updated 01/01/05
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Patty,
I was fortunate enough to not order my dress through you...even though I had considered it at one time. I have continued to follow this saga of yours from an outsider with a heartfelt sorrow for the girls that you have screwed over and over again. You come on here and make disgusting remarks to people, and then expect everyone to feel sorry for you and your current circumstances. You make excuses for yourself with your daughter crashing your computer etc. Etc. You could have come on here and made a blanket statement to everyone letting them know how to get a hold of you if you didn`t have everyone`s contact information.
Please do everyone a favour and NEVER go into business for yourself again. You are not a business woman and don`t know the first thing about running a reputable business. I am sorry that you have gone through hard times, but guess what? Everyone has hard times at some point in their life and the world keeps turning. There is no need to make excuses and tell everyone that you have been molested in your life...yes people may feel sorry for you (which is what you want), but those girls waiting on their wedding dresses still want their dresses regardless of what you have endured.
Suck it up and do the right thing! Keep your personal problems to yourself and stay out of business!
I was fortunate enough to not order my dress through you...even though I had considered it at one time. I have continued to follow this saga of yours from an outsider with a heartfelt sorrow for the girls that you have screwed over and over again. You come on here and make disgusting remarks to people, and then expect everyone to feel sorry for you and your current circumstances. You make excuses for yourself with your daughter crashing your computer etc. Etc. You could have come on here and made a blanket statement to everyone letting them know how to get a hold of you if you didn`t have everyone`s contact information.
Please do everyone a favour and NEVER go into business for yourself again. You are not a business woman and don`t know the first thing about running a reputable business. I am sorry that you have gone through hard times, but guess what? Everyone has hard times at some point in their life and the world keeps turning. There is no need to make excuses and tell everyone that you have been molested in your life...yes people may feel sorry for you (which is what you want), but those girls waiting on their wedding dresses still want their dresses regardless of what you have endured.
Suck it up and do the right thing! Keep your personal problems to yourself and stay out of business!
Posted by Appalled; updated 01/02/05
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Kimmy,
You have every right to claim a breech of contract. Your dress is NOT what you ordered and if it is stipulated clearly in your contract, get your money back from your credit card company and get a new dress from someone who will do what they say they will. Don`t feel sorry for this business woman! Stand up for yourself and get what you want...yes, Patty`s life sucks as she continues to tell everyone when she is not cussing people out...that doesn`t change that you deserve the dress that you ordered.
You have every right to claim a breech of contract. Your dress is NOT what you ordered and if it is stipulated clearly in your contract, get your money back from your credit card company and get a new dress from someone who will do what they say they will. Don`t feel sorry for this business woman! Stand up for yourself and get what you want...yes, Patty`s life sucks as she continues to tell everyone when she is not cussing people out...that doesn`t change that you deserve the dress that you ordered.
Posted by A friend; updated 01/02/05
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Patty,
I`m sorry to hear about the circumstances that have caused you to close your business. However, I still would like a refund on my dress because the fabric is not as contracted. I know it is probably not your fault, but it is still wrong and something I`m not willing to accept.
Could you offer an explanation as to why you won`t refund my money when the contract explicitely states "The gown will be made of silk ziboline"?
I`m sorry to hear about the circumstances that have caused you to close your business. However, I still would like a refund on my dress because the fabric is not as contracted. I know it is probably not your fault, but it is still wrong and something I`m not willing to accept.
Could you offer an explanation as to why you won`t refund my money when the contract explicitely states "The gown will be made of silk ziboline"?
Posted by Betsy; updated 01/02/05
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Patty,
You need to refund Betsy her money. I`m sorry you are going through such a hard time, but so does everyone else. Many of us have brothers, fiance`s, fathers in Iraq fighting for their lives every day. You are not alone, so don`t use it as an excuse. You should refund everyone their money, and not contest any of the dispute claims made against their credit cards. You are making matters worse on yourself by not refunding Betsy her money, and causing problems for others.
You need to refund Betsy her money. I`m sorry you are going through such a hard time, but so does everyone else. Many of us have brothers, fiance`s, fathers in Iraq fighting for their lives every day. You are not alone, so don`t use it as an excuse. You should refund everyone their money, and not contest any of the dispute claims made against their credit cards. You are making matters worse on yourself by not refunding Betsy her money, and causing problems for others.
Posted by Anonomous; updated 01/02/05
