Military Wedding

Hi,
Please don`t laugh! I feel totally clueless.My fiance asked me to marry him 2 months ago as WE had just
Found out that we are going to have a baby.
I have always wanted a traditional wedding.
My husband to be respects this but REALLY wants a
Military Themed wedding.I respect his work and would like to honour this but the truth is I need help.I dont know what to do, the protocol ,favors to use what to dress my 2 bridesamidses in etc. I would appreciate
Any help on ideas,music to dance to , reception ideas? Yes you can now see how clueless i am.Hoefully with everyones thoughts and ideas on Military weddings I can have the planning underway as he is away at the moment and we plan to get married in 3 months time.
Thank you everyone....Lyn.
Posted by Lyn; updated 05/23/04

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Nice, a shotgun wedding because you weren`t very careful with your sexual encounters.

I love seeing pregnant brides in their white dresses. Ah, how tactful.
Posted by Linda; updated 05/23/04

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A military wedding isn`t much different than a regular wedding. I am currently studying to be a bridal consultant and leaving for the Air Force myself, I am trying to gather more information on the rules of military weddings and will let you know as soon as I find out.
And Linda, shut up! You don`t HAVE to see anybody, if you don`t like it, look the other way! Her being pregnant is none of your business.

Congrats on both the wedding and the baby!
Posted by brandy; updated 05/23/04

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Thank you Brandy,
Linda thank you for your input.I ALWAYS look for the positive in life and if you have an outlook on life like this I feel sorry for you.No matter how careful you are you can never have 100% protection.Not that my sex life is your concern,If you are reading my post you obviously have nothing better to do as you didn`t answer what I needed to know.I may be clueless about Military weddings but I AM educated woman that will soon be married and have a baby that WILL HAVE
Loving caring parents.Don`t make this message board a slaying of words USE IT AS IT IS MEANT TO BE..
Good luck to you and lose the sarcasim you will be better off in the long run...
Smile and be happy for me...
Posted by Lyn; updated 05/24/04

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Posted by ABBI; updated 05/24/04

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I really don`t know anything about military themed weddings, but I wanted to congratulate you on your engagement and pregnancy:)
Posted by Beth; updated 05/24/04

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I spent 20 years in the Air Force, 2 of that in Protocol. What would you like to know?

And congratulations on your wedding and the baby.
Posted by Lori; updated 05/24/04

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Re: Military Wedding
Military weddings are a privilege of those in the armed forces or cadets. All are formal, with military personnel in dress uniform and commanding officers seated according to rank.

Although, there is no "official" military wedding protocol, military weddings differ from tradition weddings in several ways; the main distinction of a military wedding is that the bride and/or groom, as well as service members in the wedding party, usually wear their uniforms. The type of uniform depends on the style of the wedding, the time of day, the season, and most importantly, the government-issued uniform manual:

"Mess" dress uniform is worn for both ultra-formal and formal weddings (i.e., a white or black-tie affair). For most branches, this means a dark-blue uniform, but during the summer months, the army and navy men may wear white pants.


"Class-A" or "Service" dress uniform is appropriate at a semiformal event (comparable to a suit). Like the "Mess" dress uniforms, these are also dark-blue and sometimes with white pants.

Any non-military wedding-party members simply wear traditional wedding clothes of the same level of formality as those in uniform.
Posted by brandy; updated 05/24/04

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Some Suggestions:


Bride and bridesmaids: The bride can wear her uniform (and so can any bridesmaids), but many military brides opt for a traditional white wedding dress. Bridesmaids might wear navy bridesmaids` gowns to complement the colors of the men`s uniforms, or any other color dress the bride prefers.


Groom and groomsmen: If any ushers are members of a different service than the groom (Army instead of Navy, for example), they simply wear a uniform of comparable formality to his. The groom and best man do not wear gloves because they will be handling the rings, but the other ushers wear white gloves throughout the ceremony. Boutonnieres are never worn with uniforms; instead, officers wear their military decorations.


Parents: Should the fathers of the bride or groom be active or retired officers, they may wear uniforms. So may mothers, although they usually choose to wear traditional mother-of-the-bride attire.


Guests: Military guests (active or retired) may wear their uniforms or traditional formal attire. For a black- or white-tie affair, put "Mess dress uniform invited" on the invites to request that your guests come in uniform. For a semi-formal wedding put either "Class A uniform invited" or "Service dress uniform invited".
Posted by brandy; updated 05/24/04

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Officiant

If you marry in a military chapel, the chaplain will perform your ceremony, and when you reserve the chapel you`ll arrange a meeting:

A few sessions of prewedding counseling may also be required. If you`d like your civilian clergyperson to co-officiate, talk to both officiants early about the possibility.


Chaplains are commissioned officers and are paid by the service they represent. You do not need to pay them a fee (although you should make a donation to the chapel.


It`s customary to offer any assisting civilian clergyman an honorarium.

Military Chapels


Military chapels book quickly in the spring and summer months. Many are filled usually a year in advance. The clergy at the chapel will assist you in making arrangements. Most require pre-marital counseling, so check with them in advance. If you are planning a saber arch, check to see if the chapel has sabers you can use.


If the service is performed by a military chaplain, there is never a fee. He or she should be consulted before hiring musicians or a photographer.


Rules for decorating military chapels vary across the country, but all flowers, candelabra, and other decor are arranged by the Chapel Altar Guild and are the same for all weddings. Some chapels and churches do not furnish decorations; the couple plans them themselves.


Military custom dictates that a formal invitation to the ceremony be extended to the chaplain and his or her spouse. Depending on the size of the couple`s station, as well as commanding officers, their spouses and all or some of the staff officers (and their wives or husbands) should be invited to the wedding.
Posted by brandy; updated 05/24/04

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Ceremony Venue

Many military weddings take place at military chapels or on academy grounds (Army, Navy, or Air Force). If you`d like to use another location, run it by your installation.

Most military chapels are like other in-demand ceremony sites -- you need to reserve them at least a year ahead of time, often by applying in writing to the chaplain`s office.


All service academies have more than one chapel; at the Air Force Academy, for example, there are Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish chapels.


To marry in a military chapel at a service academy, you must be a graduate or one of the following:


A dependent of a graduate;


An officer or enlisted person assigned to the academy complex, or his or her dependents;


Or a faculty or staff member, active or retired, or his or her dependents.
There will probably be no charge for the use of the chapel, but a donation to the chapel fund will be expected. The average donation amount is $50-$60.
Military Ceremony Honors


In a military wedding, honoring the bride (or the bride and groom) is an optional tradition based on the personal choice of the bride and groom. Following the religious rite, honoring the bride is a traditional ceremony in which the bride and groom pass through an arch formed by swords or rifles. Naval officers traditionally form the arch with swords.


Navy enlisted persons may honor the bride in a similar fashion. Enlisted members who do not bear arms can use hand salutes; those who bear arms can form an arch of rifles.


The tradition of the wedding arch of swords or honors differs slightly among the different branches of the armed services (see arch of sabers). In all cases, to have an arch of swords or honors is the choice of the bride and groom. It is an obligation of the best man or the groom to select those who will take part in this presentation, as well as to confirm that all weapons are at the ceremony. The senior usher is responsible for making certain that the ushers are adequately rehearsed in their roles in the honors ceremony as well as the religious rite.


After the religious rite, the senior usher forms all the ushers in two columns, and places them at the vestibule of the RMF, facing inboard. As the newly married couple advances near the Religious Ministries Facility (RMF); exit. . They pause. . The senior usher then declares, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is my honor to present to you, [rank or rate] and Mrs. John Doe. (Variations of this may be required if the bride, or both bride and groom, are military... Whichever is common, acceptable, or suitable.) The newly married couple passes through the portal, and the senior usher commands, "Draw swords." On command, all ushers carry out only the first count of the movement, leaving their swords raised, with tips touching, to form an arch under which the couple passes. After the newlyweds have passed, the senior usher commands, "Return swords." All ushers return their swords in unison. The senior usher then dismisses the ushers.


This time-honored ritual may differ among the different branches of the armed services and can be altered to oblige enlisted persons. In all cases, however, only the bride and groom pass under the arch of swords or honors.
Posted by brandy; updated 05/24/04

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The Arch of Sabers


What most guests at a military wedding are most likely to remember is the "crossed sabers," also known as the "arch of sabers," or the "arch of steel. The word steel, is synonymous for and used to represent either sabers for Navy or swords for Army, Air Force and Marines. Traditionally the bride and groom walk through the arch of swords. That passage is meant to ensure the couple`s safe transition into their new life together. The arch of swords is formed by an honor guard made up of members of the military who would normally wear a sword or saber when in dress uniform. Should one of the honor guard also be serving as a wedding attendant, in order to conform to tradition, he or she must be in full uniform. That includes wearing a sword or saber while in the wedding party. No one out of full dress uniform may, when conforming to military procedure, carry a sword or saber. The commanding officer should serve as a resource for the prospective bride and groom for information about who can and who cannot wear a uniform with a sword.


The arch of swords procedure is a simple and elegant one. The honor guard form two lines opposite each other. On the command of "draw sword" or "draw sabers," the steel is raised with the right hand, with the cutting edges facing up. The couple enters the arch, kiss, and then passes through. The newly married couple then salute the honor guard. Members of the honor guard then sheath the swords or sabers and return them to a carry position. Depending on church rules and on the particular branch of service, the arch can be formed either outside or in the foyer of the chapel, synagogue or church.


Yet another tradition relating to the arch of steel is a gentle "swat to the backside" that the bride receives from the last swordsman. Grooms take heed. Should you decide to adhere to this custom, it would be prudent to inform your bride about the possibility so that she isn`t unpleasantly surprised. In addition, it is also traditional for the wedding cake to be cut with a saber or other type of military sword.

The Guard of Honour

Although the ushers usually act as sword bearers, other officers may be designated as sword bearers--which would accelerate the arch of swords ceremony following the wedding ceremony. It is customary that six or eight ushers (or designated sword bearers) take part in the ceremony. Although the chaplain`s office will furnish swords (sabers for the ceremony, it is customary, such as at West Point, for the cadets to furnish their own white belts, gloves, and breastplates. If the ushers have removed their swords, they now hook them on. In an outdoor ceremony, they proceed down the steps of the chapel where they form, facing each other in equal numbers.

In the Naval Services: The head usher gives the command, "Officers, draw swords," which is done in one continuous motion, tips touching. The bride and groom pass under the arch--and only they may do so-- then they pause for a moment. The head usher gives the command, "Officers, Return (swords brought to the position of "resent arms" swords."

Swords are returned to the scabbard for all but about three or four inches of their length. The final inches of travel are completed in unison, the swords returning home with a single click.

When the arch of swords ceremony is held indoors, it takes place just as the couple rises after receiving the blessing.

All members of the bridal party wait until the ushers swords are returned to their scabbards before the recessional proceeds.


In the Army and Air Force: The Arch of Sabers is carried out when the bride and groom rise from their kneeling position after the benediction, the senior saber bearer gives the command, "Center Face". This command moves the saber bearers into position facing each other. The next command is "Arch Sabers," wherein each saber bearer raises his right arm with the saber, rotating it in a clockwise direction, so that the cutting edge of the saber will be on top, thus forming a true arch with this opposite across the aisle.

After the bride and groom pass under the arched sabers, the command is, "Carry Sabers" followed almost immediately by "rear face," with the saber bearers facing away from the altar, thus enabling them to march down the side aisle. They form again with arched sabers on the steps of the chapel.
Posted by brandy; updated 05/24/04

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The Reception


Military receptions at academies or bases are often held at officers` or enlisted clubs on the installation, or you can have a traditional hotel or restaurant reception.


Military guests are traditionally shown to their seats in order of rank.


You might play at bit of regimental music, including the theme song of the bride`s and/or groom`s branch of service.


Decorations could include American flags and/or the standards of your unit(s) in addition to flowers.


The highlight of a military reception comes when the bride and groom cut the cake using a saber or sword, one belonging to the groom if he owns one. The groom presents it to the bride and she cuts a slice of the wedding cake with the groom`s right hand resting over hers.

Finally, always get permission or verification from proper military channels. If the wedding is to be held on base (or military grounds), you should get permission for: photographers, flowers, etc. Please check with your commanding officer, protocol officer or chaplain on the proper protocol that should be followed when planning a military wedding. Not only does each base differ, but also each branch.

Sorry this was so long but I thought it was a lot of useful information! Hope it helps
Posted by brandy; updated 05/24/04

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Thank you Brandy

You Rock!!

Lyn
Posted by Lyn; updated 05/25/04

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Anytime, just glad I could copy and paste cause that would have been a pain in the a$$ to type out!
Posted by brandy; updated 05/25/04

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Hi Lyn I have been studying military wedding myself and this is what I`ve found out that the bride stands at the right instead of the left of the groom because of his sword will be on the left, groom doesn`t have a boutanniere due to being in his uniform, the saber will be used to cut the cake instead of a knife, after the ceremony there is something called Arch of Sabers and that is where other ushers will pull out there swords and hold them up in the air and the bride and groom will walk underneath it and that insures a safe travel in the couples new married life, and the last usher will tap the bride on the behind and say welcome to the military ma`am. But that is all that I know so far like I said I`m still studying because I`m engaged myself to a marine and we are suppose to get married at the end of this year. Good Luck. If I find out anymore I`ll let u know.
Posted by Cassie; updated 03/17/05

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Here is my thought on this, why are all teh military rules focused on the men? Like on which side the bride stands on because of the sword or whatever, women join the military too! I wish we got half of the recognition as the men!
Posted by Brandy; updated 03/29/05

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Hi,
I am planning a military wedding myself. My wedding date is July 9th of thid year and I feel totally clueless to what I should be doing! My fiance has only been in the Army for 6 months, so I don`t know a whole lot. Any more ideas?
Posted by Carrie; updated 04/03/05

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Wow. Lady get a life.. Honey i am sure you will have a great and beautiful wedding. Military weddings are wonderful and so are babies. I wish you the best :)

Linda- You aren`t invite, are not going to see her. What do you care? Seriously be happy and get over it. Maybe you should have a baby.
Posted by Amanda; updated 04/04/05

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Right on Amanda! I`m sure that Linda knows people, and probably is even related to people who I`m sure she loves, that have gotten pregnant before marriage. So.......critisize those people, not a total stranger! Congrats on your baby!
Posted by Carrie; updated 04/04/05